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 Post subject: Amd and Intel CPUs
 Post Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:46 am 
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Right now I been looking into Intel and Amd and see what will happen next.

Right now Intel Core 2 has Smart cache and higher fsb, sse4 then Amd and a few other things like Quad cores.

What do you think Amd will use to combat this setup? To level the playing feild?


Amd has Intergraded memory controler. 4x4 Basicly server setup With two FX 7+ cpu.

I been hearing a few things Like Amd Fusion. Basicly Amd will intergrade the gpu on with the cpu.

The K8L ? k10? Not sure which one real. But they should have better HT 3.0 and 64k L1 cache, 512k L2 cache and 2mb L3 cache? Mybe higher FSB? and up to 4 core per cpu.

I am guessing the info I wrote might be %50 to %70 right.

What do you think Intel will do to combat this.


The other thing I am seeing is Ghz has changed. It seems Ghz are getting lower While computers are getting faster and in the p1 p2 p3 Most of p4 Ghz ment power. But it seem in 2005 Amd Show Ghz did not mean power. From the Amd 1800 and up.

What a good way to understand Power of the computer. What would be good tests. Stuff for CPU, GPU and memory.


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I don't like to predict the future, however it is easy to predict that the
number of CPU cores per chip will increase in the future. Intel is ahead in
the multi-core game as it has a distinct manufacturing advantage. Intel is
virtually a process generation ahead of AMD, as Intel is about to move to
45nm while AMD only recently started on 65nm. Having a process advantage
means you can fit many more transistors (or cores) on a chip, and run them
at higher speeds while drawing less power and producing less heat.

Integrating video into a processor is probably a bad idea from a
manufacturing and production standpoint, not to mention it would take away
transistors better utilized by other processor features such as cache. I
believe that putting integrated video in the chipset is a much better idea,
and both Intel and AMD are doing that already.

Regarding clock speeds: Don't be fooled by comparing the clock speeds of
different technologies (i.e. Pentium III/Core vs. Pentium 4). Clock speed
for a *given* technology have always been increasing. The current Core2
chips evolved from the Pentium III, which topped out at 1.0 to 1.4GHz. The
Core2 Duo runs up to 2.93GHz or more, and that is with 2 cores. Future
versions will run even higher clock speeds, and if they made them in single
core versions they could run even higher speeds as well.

In my opinion, the best overall benchmark for evaluating system performance
(or "power" as you describe it) is the BAPCo SYSmark: http://www.bapco.com

You can read full-disclosure reports comparing different systems here:
http://www.bapco.com/fdr.html


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