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 Post subject: Certain game won't work with XP or Vista
 Post Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:00 pm 
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Scott, I have a PC game designed for Windows 95 that will not work with Windows XP or Vista. Is there any software for XP or Vista that will make the game think that it's being used with Windows 95?


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 Post subject: Re: Certain game won't work with XP or Vista
 Post Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:53 pm 
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I have had some success with the compatibility mode

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows- ... lity-mode/


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 Post subject: Re: Certain game won't work with XP or Vista
 Post Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:22 pm 
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Unfortunately, Mr. McMahon, when one inserts the first disc for the game in question, it needs Windows 95 right off the bat.


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 Post Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:27 pm 
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In that case all you need is a Virtual PC running Windows 95. Let me know how that works for you. Scott.


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 Post Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:48 pm 
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Where can I download such a version of Virtual PC? It would need to work with XP or Vista.


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 Post Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:54 pm 
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Virtual PC. <g> Scott.


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 Post Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:08 pm 
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Is Virtual PC 2007 OK?


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 Post Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:19 pm 
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What other versions are available? Of those, which one do you think you should run, and why? Scott.


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 Post Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:25 pm 
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It seems I need Windows 7 to run the latest version of Virtual PC. I don't have Windows 7.


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 Post Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:31 pm 
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You haven't answered my questions.
Scott wrote:
What other versions are available? Of those, which one do you think you should run, and why? Scott.


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 Post subject: Re: Certain game won't work with XP or Vista
 Post Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:52 pm 
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Well, there's Windows XP Mode and Windows Virtual PC. Something on this page reads: "Running Windows Vista or Windows XP? Learn more about Virtual PC 2007." For the latest version of Virtual PC, it is required that the host operating system be some edition of Windows 7. Since I don't have Windows 7 in any form, I believe I should get Virtual PC 2007 since I have both XP and Vista.

Good enough?


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Sounds like you are on the right track. Let me know how it works out. Scott.


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 Post subject: Re: Certain game won't work with XP or Vista
 Post Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:08 pm 
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Judging from what I've read, Virtual PC 2007 will work on Windows XP Professional but not on Windows Vista Home Premium. Also, Virtual PC 2007 doesn't support Windows 95, but Virtual PC 2004 does. Unfortunately, I've had trouble installing Windows 95 on a virtual hard drive associated with Virtual PC 2004. I can start a virtual machine, but I've had issues with both a physical installation disc and an ISO file. It seems like it won't book from an optical-disc drive. Can you please help me out?


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 Post subject: Re: Certain game won't work with XP or Vista
 Post Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:06 pm 
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Judging from what I've read, Virtual PC 2007 will work on Windows XP Professional but not on Windows Vista Home Premium.

That is incorrect as of the hotfix rollup package for Virtual PC 2007 Service Pack 1.

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Also, Virtual PC 2007 doesn't support Windows 95, but Virtual PC 2004 does.

While Win95 isn't technically "supported" as a guest under Virtual PC 2007, it does install and run.

I have successfully installed and run Win95, Win98, WinXP, WinVista and Win7 under Virtual PC 2007. While you can install the guest OS from a physical disc, I recommend installing from an ISO file instead. Scott.


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 Post subject: Re: Certain game won't work with XP or Vista
 Post Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:24 am 
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I've uninstalled Virtual PC 2004 and reinstalled Virtual PC 2007. I've tried using an ISO file, but to no avail.


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 Post Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 3:42 pm 
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Scott, I've tried to install Windows 95 using ISO files on two different PCs with Virtual PC 2007 installed on them (one with XP, the other with Vista). So far, no luck. Am I supposed to capture ISO files using Virtual PC?


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I think you need to mount the *.iso as a drive using Demon tools or similar


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 Post Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 5:30 pm 
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...So far, no luck.

That is not very informative or descriptive. The more information you provide, the better the answers you might receive. <g>

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Am I supposed to capture ISO files using Virtual PC?

Yes, once you create the new Virtual Machine, you would click on the CD menu and select "Capture ISO Image...", then browse to and select your Win95 ISO image. But that alone won't be enough, since Win95 CDs are not bootable. Therefore in order to install from a Win95 CD (or an image thereof), you will need to boot from a bootable floppy (or an image thereof) configured with optical disc support (i.e. drivers), like this one. To use the bootable floppy image in Virtual PC you would click on the Floppy menu and select "Capture Floppy Disk Image...", then browse to and select the image you extracted from the zip file.

With both the bootable floppy and CD images "captured" under Virtual PC, you would then restart the Virtual Machine, upon which it will boot from the floppy image. At that point you would want to follow these instructions to partition the virtual hard disk and install the OS. Once the OS is installed you can "release" the floppy and CD images and boot from the installed OS. Scott.


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 Post subject: Re: Certain game won't work with XP or Vista
 Post Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 5:31 pm 
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David McMahon wrote:
I think you need to mount the *.iso as a drive using Demon tools or similar

That is completely unnecessary in this case. Scott.


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 Post subject: Re: Certain game won't work with XP or Vista
 Post Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:44 am 
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Scott, I successfully managed to install Windows 95 on a virtual hard drive created with Virtual PC 2007, but when I tried to install the troublesome game Byzantine: The Betrayal on said virtual hard drive, I got multiple blue screens. (It goes without saying that each blue screen was a BSOD.) Below is a link to a page on Amazon.com about the game:

http://www.amazon.com/Byzantine-Betrayal-Pc/dp/B00003IEG5/ref=sr_1_1?s=software&ie=UTF8&qid=1316445485&sr=1-1

After reading to my dad a certain review of the game that expressed frustration, he basically agreed with me about getting rid of it. We probably shouldn't donate it to Goodwill since there are apparently very few PCs that run Windows 95 these days.


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 Post Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:29 am 
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That game appears to work under XP in Windows 95 compatibility mode combined with a few other tweaks. Scott.


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 Post subject: Re: Certain game won't work with XP or Vista
 Post Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:36 am 
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Maxi, if you can wing it, scrape up old parts and slapup a pure Win95 box.

At home I got the fixins for a few old OS's. I have one box running pure DOS ... 256MB SDRAM, Athalon XP, old MSI 6378 board with onboard Trident video (slow 3D but very fast 2D chip that I talk to with my old Fortran).

I got stuff for other boxes -- not running -- that I get second hand. Several AMD Semperons and some (not quite as old) MSI boards, with old AGP video cards.

Any old CRT monitor, beatup keyboard, wired PS2 mouse would work, just like back in the day. Sometimes I still play Master Of Orion 1 from 1995. Still the *best* PC game out there.

But *totally* unlike how these old boxes came to me, I do spend money on a very good power supply for these old setups.


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 Post Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:33 pm 
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Scott, I tried stuff mentioned on that page you linked to. The game installed OK. Unless my memory fails, I didn't know XP had a compability mode. I knew Vista did, but...


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